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the one which looks cheaper to manufacture

which is definitely the second


> I’m just not convinced it’s okay for a big rich corporation to hire all these people and then fire them on a whim.

isn't this the American dream?

become Bezos, then exploit every last cent out of your suppliers, employees and customers


can't you just rip the oauth client secret out of the code?

yeah, nfts, metaverse, all great advances

same people pushing this crap


ai is actually useful tho. idk about this level of abstraction but the more basic delegation to one little guy in the terminal gives me a lot of extra time

Maybe that's because you're not using your time well in the first place

bro im using ai swarms, have you even tried them?

bro wanna buy some monkey jpegs?

100% genuine


Your mocking NFTs. but the original NFT cyberpunks still sell for a minimum of $80k.

Where were you back then? Laughing about them instead of creating intergenerational wealth for a few bucks?


> Laughing about them instead of creating intergenerational wealth for a few bucks?

it's not creating wealth, it's scamming the gullible

criminality being lucrative is not a new phenomenon


Are you sure that yours would sell for $80K, if you aren't using it to launder money with your criminal associates?

to me, it reads like mental illness

maybe it's a mix of both :)

in terms of "AI": agent is a marketing term, it has no legal meaning

it's a piece of non-deterministic software running on someone's computer

who is responsible for its actions? hardly clear cut


The person who chose to run it (and tell it what to do) is responsible for its actions. If you don't want to be responsible for something nondeterministic software does, then don't let nondeterministic software do that thing.

Hypothetical scenario:

You buy a piece of software, marketed to photographers for photo editing. Nowhere in the manuals or license agreements does it specify anything else. Yet the software also secretly joins a botnet and participates in coordinated attacks.

Question: are you on the hook for cyber-crimes?


Would a general person in your situation know that it's doing criminal things? If not, then you're not on the hook - the person who wrote the secret code is.

You can't sit back and go "lalalala" to some tool (AI, photo software, whatever) doing illegal things when you know about it. But you also aren't on the hook for someone else's secret actions that are unreasonable for you to know about.

IANAL.


IAAL (not legal advice) and your conclusion is generally correct. "Willful disregard" frequently nullifies potential defenses to liability.

You didn't have a reasonable expectation that it would, or even might, do that.

I guess you could say that you didn't have a reasonable expectation that a bot could accept a license, but you're on a lot shakier ground there...


Usually (but not always) there is a knowing element to criminal offenses.

The same as any other computer program: the operator of the program.

with most of the privatisations triggered by EU law!

You must have forgotten Thatcher

she was certainly a fan, but the spark for the match for almost all of the privatisations was EU/EEC directives

if the UK had never joined the EEC those industries would likely still be under government ownership

(for better or worse, water certainly was a disaster, but telecoms and airlines seem to have gone reasonably well)

and rail was done post Thatcher, with her on record as saying it is "a step too far"


As a regular user I see rail privatisation as successful.

In fact the only failure is water, as it was just privitised regional monopolies with no competition.

Electicty/gas? Tell me you’d be happy with British Gas when you aren’t allowed to use Octopus

Phone? Of course that’s a success, both mobile and also wires.

Airline? Freight?

Busses are too fragmented in regional areas, but the services tend to be better than they were under council run.


I wouldn't strictly put all of them at the feet of the EU. While what you say is true, the Conservatives were frothing to privatise whatever they could. Labour just went along with the process (and I'm no Labour supporter either).

The one I won't forgive was our water. I believe we're the only developed country to have privatised our water, with disastrous consequences.

And that one can be squarely laid at the feet of Margaret 'Fucking" Thatcher (real name).


> The one I won't forgive was our water. I believe we're the only developed country to have privatised our water, with disastrous consequences.

100% agreed

there's no market or competition at any level (even RAIL had somewhat competitive bidding for franchises)

they're just Henry VIII style granted monopolies, with the results are the same as they were 800 years ago

(well, other than the civil war bit)

> And that one can be squarely laid at the feet of Margaret 'Fucking" Thatcher (real name).

water was another EU triggered one: the EU (EEC) kept writing new water directives, and the government couldn't figure out another way to fund their implementation


This is wrong.

A large chunk of the “classic” UK sell-offs were 1980s to early 1990s: BT (1984), British Gas (1986), British Airways (1987), and by 1991 regional electricity and water companies had been privatised.

A lot of EU single-market liberalisation in network industries ramped up later (late 1980s/1990s, and beyond). For example, telecoms EU “competition” directives begin in 1988/1990 and are amended through the 1990s. Meanwhile, the UK government had already announced plans to sell major chunks of BT by 1982, and BT’s privatization was implemented through UK legislation. England/Wales water privatization was created by Water Act 1989.


If the government couldn't figure out a way to fund their implementation, then either the government was insufficiently-wily (in which case, they could've hired wily consultants), or it was genuinely impossible without taking money from another pot. If the latter, then selling to a for-profit corporate structure was the worst possible decision they could've made.

I'm absolutely certain mountains of useless consultants were involved

the comparison is pretty good actually

"AI" agents randomly delete your files

and so does OneDrive


> There's no scenario where AI goes away completely.

the scenario is if training becomes impossible (for any reason), then the currently available models quickly become out of date

say this had happened 30 years ago

today, would you be using an "AI" that only supported up to COBOL?


can't wait to have my 6 PHBs telling me to adopt Gas Town in 2 years time

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