We’re getting quite OT here, but since where already at it... Why the quotes around the term honor crimes? I do believe there is a credible argument that domestic violence and honour-based violence are not the same thing. It’s not just private advocacy organizations that say this. Some interesting quotes from a report published by the UK government:
2.13. The rationale for HBV [honour-based violence] differs from other related crime types such as domestic abuse in that it usually occurs to preserve perceived social, cultural or religious traditions or norms. HBV can involve multiple perpetrators taking drastic action which may be premeditated.
2.14. The other difference between HBV and other forms of abuse is that there are potentially significant risks to people associated with the victim, for example the victim’s children, siblings and friends as well as members of various authority groups and organisations who seek to assist the victim.
So based on this I would say HBV isn’t exactly the same thing as domestic violence. But of course, this is not only about muslims. Far from it. HBV is taking place in many different cultures and countries.
2.9. HBV is not linked to any one religion, culture or society. It has been identified as mainly occurring among populations from South Asia. However, it can occur in other cultures and communities, such as African, Middle Eastern, Turkish, Kurdish, Afghan, parts of Europe (including the United Kingdom) American, Australian and Canadian. HBV is not associated with any particular religion or religious practices and has been recorded across a number of faiths, including Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim and Sikh communities.
I don’t know how prevalent these practices are in Sweden/Europe so I have no idea about the reliability of the stats from the EP briefing that was cited by 'coldtea. But I think it’s important that the authorities are aware about the specifics of the issue in order to help the victims in a proper manner. If we just say that it’s all domestic violence we might not be able to help the victims in a relevant way.
2.13. The rationale for HBV [honour-based violence] differs from other related crime types such as domestic abuse in that it usually occurs to preserve perceived social, cultural or religious traditions or norms. HBV can involve multiple perpetrators taking drastic action which may be premeditated.
2.14. The other difference between HBV and other forms of abuse is that there are potentially significant risks to people associated with the victim, for example the victim’s children, siblings and friends as well as members of various authority groups and organisations who seek to assist the victim.
So based on this I would say HBV isn’t exactly the same thing as domestic violence. But of course, this is not only about muslims. Far from it. HBV is taking place in many different cultures and countries.
2.9. HBV is not linked to any one religion, culture or society. It has been identified as mainly occurring among populations from South Asia. However, it can occur in other cultures and communities, such as African, Middle Eastern, Turkish, Kurdish, Afghan, parts of Europe (including the United Kingdom) American, Australian and Canadian. HBV is not associated with any particular religion or religious practices and has been recorded across a number of faiths, including Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim and Sikh communities.
Source: https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmicfrs/wp-content/u...
I don’t know how prevalent these practices are in Sweden/Europe so I have no idea about the reliability of the stats from the EP briefing that was cited by 'coldtea. But I think it’s important that the authorities are aware about the specifics of the issue in order to help the victims in a proper manner. If we just say that it’s all domestic violence we might not be able to help the victims in a relevant way.