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I feel completely the same.

The problem though, if you allow for user overrides, then the next TotallyNotShadyVideoPlayer will kindly ask you to add the manual override for "can't read the screen" and, if you agree, it'll steal your credentials. That is, regular users will be easy to selfpwn.

I don't think this can be solved on the software side. It's "security vs. usefulness, pick one" kind of situation. Maybe we need to tackle the human factor - make it easier to prosecute malicious code authors - but not sure if that's any more possible to implement than software that's both useful and secure.



Yep, that's what I meant: Apple's stance is, We can't let veidr override sandbox limitations, because then his dad might get pwned.

That's true, as far as it goes. My view is, maybe you make the dialog to do that scary enough; maybe you have to go enable some security setting to even make the dialog possible; maybe, even so, you have to accept that some users like my dad will get fooled and exploited.

OTOH, it's already a slippery slope; even more secure would be to completely prohibit all third-party software entirely.

I think they are drawing the lines wrong.


History shows that if the dialog shows up often enough people will simply hit accept/ok/whatever without reading what it is about.


> maybe you have to go enable some security setting to even make the dialog possible

This sounds like you're on the right track. Make it a shell command you have to execute with SIP disabled.




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