Why is that so difficult for people on HN to find? I have read that page once, built an understanding based on that - and then watched youtube videos with the exact operation of the Autopilot, and talked to owners of it - and my understanding did not change, it was exactly the same as the one I received on the Tesla's own page... Am I speaking better English than these people or what? Why can't they just read the website fully? Why are so many people on HN say that Tesla is trying to fool someone?
I suspect it's a need to be the smartest person in the room. A lot of people are long Tesla, a lot of the same people are optimistic by temperament, taking a pessimistic view is an easy way to stand by your reality-filter and look smart if you turn out right.
Then the filter does its job and makes them blind to the kind of things you've pointed out. The only way for this to change is people to get skin in the game so that it hurts when their theses are proven wrong. I wonder how many of the people alleging fraud are actually short TSLA.
My point was about the video itself, which features prominently on the page.
Yes, there are disclaimers on that page. I just think that being up-front with the current state of the system (driver assistance) would be clearer than starting with autonomous driving and then adding a bunch of qualifiers to it. And it seems the German court agrees.
No other disclaimers? Are we reading the same page you linked?
The title of the page clearly says “Future of Driving”
“Autopilot today and full self-driving capabilities in the future...“
The page then goes on to define what Autopilot is and concludes with this:
“Current Autopilot features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.”