I can't believe folks still want to manage bespoke distributed computing clouds with chef/ansible/shell scripts, homegrown monitoring, deployment, etc. IMHO you know kubernetes is long term good when everyone has complaints of some sort about it but no one can think of a better replacement.

Yeah, I don't have all that. I have a few on prem services, and trouble is very rare. Yet they hired some guy that spent a year trying to move our shit into k8s (and failing). He's long gone, and everything is still working fine.

The problem is that most people advocating Kubernetes don’t have enough experience with use cases where it doesn’t fit, of which there are many.

> I cannot believe that folks think k8s is a good thing.

If you are ever in a position to do professional work on web apps, you'll quickly learn why container orchestration systems are invaluable.

Being a part time devops engineer in my previous org, I genuinely do believe that k8s is a good thing. Automating everything is a really good thing.

I think its the best thing happened in the last 10 years regarding infrastructure and software.

All my stuff runs on one very flexible, easy to maintain k8s cluster.

App deployment is super easy.

It feels already much better and saver than all the snow flake systems i build before..

If you don't get it, you should really try it out before having a battle with 'the pointy-haired ones' whatever you are referencing here.

I run a big k8s cluster at work (200-400 nodes), a private single node one and for a startup with 2 nodes.

it's hard to appreciate before your apps get to a certain scale and it's a pain to manage yourself... but it does solve problems that used to require special snowflake deployment/sysadmin/devops scripting in a standard way.

Why do you think so?