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Have you managed to get out of Somalia? Or was it a favella in Rio?


You act like most probable place for such an event, when discussing on HN, ain't simply some rural US. Some folks are crazy and vastly unbalanced, period. If they have access to guns, bad shit happens frequently.

The amount of folks in US who legally own guns and never ever should be allowed to touch one is staggering.


You're more likely to get killed using a gun in the US than Somalia

(Somalia: 7.02 per 100K, US: 10.84 per 100K)


More than 50% of that 10.84 consists of suicides - a fairly typical, convenient omission for folks with an agenda. "Get killed" would imply that "you" weren't the actor doing the killing.

Somalia suicide rate: 7.90 per 100K

United States suicide rate: 14 per 100K

How many of these US and Somalia deaths are associated with organized crime?


Considering the rate of "regret"[1] on failed suicide attempts, this isn't the slam dunk you think it is.

[1] https://ennyman.medium.com/a-lesson-from-29-golden-gate-suic...


The original comment was:

> You're more likely to get killed using a gun in the US than Somalia

How is suicide or the regret thereof relevant to "getting killed?"


Source for those figures? Do they include suicides?


Yes, that figure is more than 50% suicides - this is a common statistical ruse.


OK so US is 5.4 and Somalia is 7

"America -- slightly safer than Somalia!"


Are you regularly involved in inner-city gang violence? The United States is a big, diverse place.


Well, I'd assume Somalia has a non-zero number of firearm related suicides as well




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