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Isn’t it a myth that vultures circle kills


They circle and kettle in other circumstances as well, but no, they definitely do circle iver carcasses (and what may soon become so). It's a familiar site if you live around them.

Do you remember where you heard it's a myth? I'd be curious to see how that argument was made.


The circling behavior is, as I read, almost always them waiting for a warm current to take them elsewhere.


That's something they seem to do, for sure. It's just not the only thing.

They're not very vocal and are very social, so circling over carcasses might be a way to signal to others that they've found something.

They also form kettles as a big communal thing, too, for neither of those purposes. I've seen as many as 50 or 60 circling together for well over an hour, with no food nearby and no clearly no interest in going anywhere else.

(This is all turkey vultures in the US. These African vultures might have different behaviors, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are mostly comparable in terms of variety and sophistication)


Perhaps an insight into vulture humour:

George the turkey vulture: It's a nice day to hang out circling.

Rambo the turkey vulture: Hey George, let's hang.

Pappias the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Sydney the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Violet the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Sydney the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Seven the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Arnold the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

Angel the turkey vulture: Where's the food? No food. LOL. You guys!

All: LOL (but silently).

...

60 vultures later someone observes 60 vultures circling and concludes:

A. There's definitely no carcass, as that's a myth.

B. There's definitely a carcass, as there's 60 vultures.

C. I'm going to find some water to drink.


I live in a place where Vultures are protected, so there's tons of them, and I have seen them circling in both cases, clearly hovering a carcass, but also randomly circling in numbers when no food is around...


As a soaring pilot I can confidently say that we circle when we _found_ the updraft. There's no "waiting", there's " searching" for it.


Where did you read this? I would love to learn more.



Thanks for sharing these!

And yeah, on close read, you'll see that they're all trying to communicate that you can't assume that the vultures are circling a carcass whenever you see them circling because they have other behaviors that involve circling as well. But it's an easy detail to miss in some of them for sure!


I feel that’s not quite right. The writing appears to indicate that circling a carcass is the small minority. They’re finding the carcasses by smell of decay.

I’ve read elsewhere vultures are actually good signals of gas leaks for this reason.

They don’t have much of a reason to circle a carcass they intend to eat unless perhaps it’s a lagging indicator and they’re leaving the carcass. They don’t circle dying things because they don’t have the means to detect dying things.

I’m not convinced circling vultures is a good sign that there’s a carcass below them.


No. They'll even circle live animals if they can tell they are sick or dying.

I personally witnessed this in the city trash dump of Tegucigalpa. Emaciated cattle grazing in trash, with cultures circling above them.


Also vultures circling the battlefields of every Attila, Genghis Khan and Tamerlane, before swords were joined.;)


Myth or not, the poachers believe it and murder the vultures as a result.

I’ve worked with vultures at a raptor conservancy. They are social, curious and intelligent birds. I have very fond memories of an Egyptian vulture named Boe who would unfailingly undoe my shoelaces when I entered her aviary. I love these birds


I’ve personally seen turkey vultures circle carcasses on several occasions.


As someone who lived near Egyptian Vultures and Eurasian Black Vultures (Aegypius monachus), I can assure you they do. But that's not the only reason for them to do so.


Different area and I assume different vultures, but head on out to the east east bay in the summer and you’ll see plenty of vulture circles.


They absolutely do on the East African savannah.


I've witnessed it many times myself.




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