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Ford’s Blue Cruise is hands-off in mapped highways. Waymo is driverless. Musk is really getting away with all the hype for what Tesla cruise control delivers.


Ford's Blue Cruise is not hands-off on mapped highways, only on portions of some highways where curves are shallow. And it can suddenly demand you take over in a failure mode that completely disables itself forcing you to instantly take over in a split second.

Also it still kills people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgFPW5esM04


> And it can suddenly demand you take over in a failure mode that completely disables itself forcing you to instantly take over in a split second.

Like FSD, too, you mean.


Tesla is hands-off since a week ago (provided you are sunglass free and watching road).


It is really difficult to read if this is sarcasm or not, and I am not being sarcastic.


Tesla's most recent version of FSD (which is released to a limited number of non-employee testers so far) uses only eye tracking for driver monitoring and does not require the user to touch the steering wheel as long as they are looking forward.


Right, I was confused. "Hands-off" intially sounded like it was trustworthy to drive itself.

But in this case it means the car now trusts you to trust it by not putting your hands on the wheel?


Whole point is for two systems to monitor the road.

If you think Waymo doesn’t have thousands of people doing the same but remotely - I have bridge to sell you.


For Tesla yes, because it can't be trusted. Allowing you to not touch the wheel while still expecting you to jump in at any time isn't an improvement by any measure.

Any remote watcher can't be expected to avoid a crash in realtime.

Waymo is trusted to behave safely without supervision, but of course they monitor everything to validate and improve.


Ah, so it is just another word for negligence? Is that a feature people are championing?


One interesting bit is that recently Nvidia's CEO said Tesla is ahead of the other companies in the space. My opinion is also that Tesla isn't but then we have a connundrum. Is Nvidia's CEO just saying this because Waymo doesn't buy GPUs from them?

> “Tesla is far ahead in self-driving cars,” Huang said in an exclusive interview with Yahoo Finance.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-ceo-says-tesla-far-ahe...


Nvidia's CEO said that a day after Elon raised a capital multi billion dollar capital round all spent on a 100,000 gpu Nvidia cluster for another of his companies, so it could easily just be flattery.


> Is Nvidia's CEO just saying this because Waymo doesn't buy GPUs from them?

Yes.


It's amazing how little you can trust these people even though you would expect that the CEO of NVIDIA has a reputation to maintain.


Did you forget the crypto and nft hype train presentations that Jensen did ~2 years ago?


Bear in mind he was selling shovels to the miners, not shilling coins, I think?


> Is Nvidia's CEO just saying this because Waymo doesn't buy GPUs from them?

Waymo works in limited places and relies on a ridiculous number of sensors. Have you seen one in real life with all its equipment? Surely that makes it less advanced or at less ambitious. Assuming something malicious about Nvidia’s CEO seems like a big leap.


I've always wondered why adding more sensors to a self driving car was such a big deal.

Yes, it makes the cars more expensive but at some point, these parts will get mass produced and they will be cheap as hell.

The more data a car has, the better it should drive.


Once you add sensors you can't promise buyers that their car with less sensors will be just as self driving as the car with more sensors. So adding sensors is a big deal for Tesla, because they are in the market of selling a promise of self driving.


Maybe that's a harsh lesson in making promises that can't be delivered?

Or, more likely, no lessons will be learned and people will still trust what the company says in the future for arbitrary reasons.


Ambition isn't the goal, self driving is. Who cares how many sensors it has as long as it works?


> Who cares how many sensors it has as long as it works?

Funny enough, The original topic was that looking sexier was more profitable than working.


Well, if something will be prohibitively price it is just like not existing.


TIL that Porsche cars don't exist.


You know what I mean, don't catch me on words.


One is literally able to drive itself with no human. The other is advanced cruise control. This is like saying a regular plane is better than a fighter jet because it has less sensors and both can fly.




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