That's pretty dumb. There are literally thousands upon thousands of companies yo...

Loughla · 2025-08-14T21:31:47 1755207107

Alternate option: I also don't approve of those people either?

perching_aix · 2025-08-14T22:29:32 1755210572

I'd day this ship has sailed when he became a celebrity.

Comment on him positively, you're now contributing to elevating his identity into something beyond human (etc.).

Comment on him negatively, and now you're just using him as a scapegoat (etc.).

It would seem like the real devil is in the asymmetry of significance, not in the people in question, or even the traits.

8note · 2025-08-14T21:45:51 1755207951

in what way does critiquing steve jobs convince the people being screwed over to not share?

i want courts to make it right, not for the swindlers to be confident talking about how they swindle people without consequence.

"owning up to it" is making it right, not chit chatting

recursive · 2025-08-14T21:36:03 1755207363

It's possible to care about the practice of deception and also talk about one case.

Personally, I don't give much credit for "bravery" when it's expressed in terms of "being transparent" about being an asshole.

kulahan · 2025-08-15T07:46:44 1755244004

Do you give credit when people are brave enough to admit they have… positive traits? Why would someone even bother with saying that stuff?

“Everyone, I’m bravely showing you my spotless record” is really not an impressive showing. Being willing to completely upend your own reputation is.

recursive · 2025-08-15T17:56:25 1755280585

I don't consider that bravery at all. So no.

I give more bravery points (which are worthless of course) to a whistle blower or someone running into a burning building to rescue the world's most tragic orphan.

kulahan · 2025-08-15T19:05:34 1755284734

Dang, that’s one unbelievably black and white world you live in. The nuance you miss must be book-worthy

recursive · 2025-08-15T19:15:14 1755285314

I wouldn't know.