The post you replied to didn’t say things are not like that. He said things should not be like that.

> He said things should not be like that.

Why should they not be like that? Absolutist non-intervention is not a realistic strategy in a universe where nation states border each other and their actions affect each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the bulk of human history shows that interventions has largely been disastrous in terms of long-term effects.

As a German, I can say I‘m very happy for the intervention some decades ago, but it’s of course just one example, potentially a bad one, and likely cannot be generalized — just wanted to throw this into the ring as a positive example.

Which country was Venezuela at war with?

Germany waged war on just about the whole world, the response to that was one of defense, not offense.

> Which country was Venezuela at war with?

> Germany waged war on just about the whole world, the response to that was one of defense, not offense.

I find it useful to distinguish legality from morality of the move of capturing Maduro and his wife.

One way I approach it is to ask myself: if one could have Maduro returned to Venezuela today, would one? Perhaps the answer that most people would give is yes (i.e. everyone would be better off), but I'm not so sure.

And some of them are levers that we should not tolerate.

I'm not sure who Trump is doing favors for here, but much like when it was Bush doing favors for Haliburton, we could end up with decades of pointless war which neither of the corrupt parties that started it take any responsibility for cleaning up.

Whether through politics or sabotage, its appropriate to intervene if somebody is about to stick you with the bill for something like this. We can't be all "boys will be boys" about it. The consequences are often too severe.