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> acquire land via direct negotiations with Greenland natives

"Greenland does not want to be controlled by the US. Greenland does not want to be owned by the US." - Jens-Fredrik Nielsen, Greenland PM

This view is shared by ~95% of Greenlanders.

You can't unilaterally enter "direct negotiations" with people to purchase their belongings. The active and willing participation of both parties is a key element of a genuine negotiation.


I think we should all be more shocked the US kidnapped the leader of another country.


That previous US leaders permitted Western Hemisphere nations to get so in bed with rival hegemonies for so long is the shocking thing.

Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?


I closely follow all of this, to the detriment of my job. I'm amused that the US State Dept's PR is that "Maduro is selling oil to our enemies."

We've frozen Venezuela out from buying or selling anything from any other country. This is how economic sanctions work. If a company or country does business with Venezuela, we block them from doing business in the USA.

What else is Venezuela supposed to do? Of course they're going to sell oil to countries that we don't like. It's the first thing that happens when we place severe economic sanctions on another country.


From my point of view in Europe, the trail that Trump is following by persecuting opponents, disregarding and abusing law, deploying a pretorian guard and defending territorial expansionism is in the history books, and is a template followed by Hitler, but by no means only by Hitler. China has no track record of being an expansionist bully that threatens everybody except other bullies, like the USA is doing right now. I never thought of seeing a comic book type dystopia unrolling before my eyes, but that's what I'm seeing and I'm worried because I have children.


You clearly DON’T “get it”.. obviously Trump is different than Hitler, but to say he’s nothing remotely close is some serious handwaving.

ICE is acting a LOT like the Gestapo.

Trump is telling obvious lies and his supporters simply parrot it as fact. That was a big part of Hitlers power, the propaganda machine that made it acceptable for otherwise intelligent people to pretend to believe the obvious lies.

Trump is aggressively threatening to expand the empire, under similar dubious security reasons.

How much does history need to rhyme before you actually notice?


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The Gestapo had the backing of the courts and the laws as well. Your argument is not as strong as you seem to think.

Also -- it's fairly well documented at this point that ICE is often without a warrant, and is detaining and in some instances deporting US citizens. These aren't one offs, and looking at what's going on in MN makes that pretty clear.


Like I said, you're far gone mentally. Deporting US Citizens is 100% a "one-off" example; we can count on one hand the amount of times that has happened. If you look at what's happening in MN and that is all you see, it only confirms what I am saying: you've been radicalized via extreme ideology rendering your blind. Violence against law enforcement who is carrying out the same exact job that it carried out under every president before is not Gestapo behavior.

You're lost.


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> The EU and Canada is [sic] upset because of Trumps use of force [...] to acquire land via direct negotiations with Greenland natives

A lie. Opinion polls suggest 85% of Greenlanders oppose the territory joining the US.

> As Americans

Would you bloody stop? Most of us here aren't Americans.


You're right. Trump isn't Hitler...

Hitler's dead.


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I envy your willingness to debate here. It's a pretty hostile place for a position you're defending.




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