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hmmm: an arbitrary finite automaton can be decomposed into a collection of edges; can we decompose a reasonable philosophy into a collection of memes/greentexts/whatever the kids are doing these days?

(for that matter, I just assume the modal HN'er is ~13 now, but maybe that's an artifact of how the front page dynamic goldfishes the conversation?)

EDIT: little red book or little red pill? https://dakotavadams.substack.com/p/redpill-op

> I'd seen posters from the now fairly infamous 4chan /pol/, or Politics, board raiding other parts of the website in character as minorities or leftists before.

How about centres troll the extremes, as in https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgTm194WIAEqak3?format=jpg&name=... ? (the Adams quote implies, whether the horseshoe be real or artificial, you'd largely be trolling the same people anyway?)



Lyingflat was a red herring then?

Seems like the idea that your (our?) concept of bigotry could be profoundly misguided could be the real unspeakable..

Have you read Lawrence of Arabia recently?

The dividing line maybe: I see --(well, viscerally) whom you may label-- bigots as adults (who may or may not require medical intervention); and you-- as children? To help you out on the trolling, I'm usually triggered by upper-middle class takes on Christ, like this guy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46733577

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46541901

:)

That is not even schizo.. (aha, PH's concept of "kidult" "resonates" strongly with me)

Meyer-Hofstede again..? Add Tocqueville, even though he couldn't travel to all the allies.

This is I make effort to speak nicely to alephnerd, am glad the mods(?) unflagged me!! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46733802

(I'm also excited by Carneyism btw)


LoA, I'm very ashamed to say, is in the category of: seen the inflight movie, but not even read "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" — should I remedy this sin of omission?

Jack and Leopold may well be centrist; I know all the thinkbois mostly by reputation, not as primary sources! (Indeed, I'm pretty sure I know who Jack must be, despite having bailed on his platform in its first year, but Leopold doesn't even ring a bell, unless he goes by a different handle?)

Here's my attempt to tl;dr my concept:

Soft bigotry: I know better than my neighbour how to live, so I deserve all sorts of good things. (Koerner notes that the way to spot social darwinists is that they're incessantly wringing their hands that the "unfit" are —somehow— outreproducing the "fit")

Hard bigotry: I know better than my neighbour how to live, so they deserve all sorts of bad things. ("patriots" get to kill "lunatics" in the street)

Now, I do believe some people do in fact know better than others how to live (unsurprisingly, I place myself among the former :-); I just also believe example works better than extortion as a means of proselytisation. (fishers of men should refrain from dynamiting the lake?)

Does the "kidult" have a large coupling constant with "growing old is obligatory; growing up is optional"?

Which M-H scales?

I'm surprised not to have run across alephnerd recently wrt Carneyism ["loz im gayn"? :)]; they seemed very great-game-adjacent, earlier...


Soft bigotry: all too happy to take Koerner to the "cleaners" :) in that there's actually something OG-Darwinism here, not even "social". I'm of the opinion that all personality-disorders are (genetically) adaptive one way or other. Maybe Regency aesthetes do find the dour Colin Firth look+manners as attractive as bronze agers found their perverts? Think PH had something about the sadist-masochist pairing having strong selective (coevolutionary) pressures at the moment of orgasm? It's very mechanical, so sorry that Sade was born a century too early.

Hard bigotry: I'm with you on this one, so let's look at

Sharp bigotry: projecting personal suffering on other tribes or, less sensibly, your own tribe. Upper middle class intellects- "existential suffering". From zero to minus one? (Original sin sounds like a weird rationalization for inventing laughter?)

The M-H scales that I like best right now are the ones that separate flawed democracies from the others :) it looks like we only have to rotate the emo-xpressivity axis by a small angle ;)

(Data from alephnerd)

Kidult. Yes. Minor correction to be explicated later


Heh, I was just thinking of Sade in connexion with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46707062

Have you seen "Clans of the Alphane Moon"? (let the hebrephenics be the saints, the megalomaniacs the politicians, the paranoid the generals, etc.)

As to existential suffering, we must imagine Sisypuss happy: https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5718194432/h98546CBC/furred-world-...


No. Thanks for the rec! (As I've mentioned too many times, Phil Dick had a special spot for the schizos but was probably (self-)diagnosed with OCD)

Yes, The happiness of Sisyphus is exactly what I think an update of the classical eudaimonia would uh formalize.

(I think it was Camus that predicted that the US would eventually lose its position as the leader of civilisation but I haven't been able to find the exact quote, or the context)


> formalize

Life is open world: choose your own adventure

(can we figure out a way for Bartle Taxonomy "killers" to spend their effort battling each other? to what extent is that what "sport" is already about?)


the three legs of joy are

>connection, openness, and love

https://bigthink.com/the-well/why-joy-is-stronger-than-happi...

What if Sisyphus lacked anyone of these.

Was the globalist saint unable to rationalize out of suffering the killer-instinct? (Have not read R&S but that was written when he was suffering less?)

Meanwhile..

Math (or other similar disciplines) should strive to become a spectator sport!!


Oops, https://bigthink.com/the-well/why-joy-is-stronger-than-happi... is 404ing for me this morning...

I think fencing may well become a spectator sport before maths! (they try, with plexi masks, but I don't think adding faces will help at all: the basic problem is it's a different way of observing and a different way of acting to almost all peoples' experience) Koerner doesn't believe maths is a spectator sport even for professional mathematicians: https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~twk10/Lecture.pdf#page=5

> The first and most important thing is to remember that most mathematicians are lost most of the time during lectures. (If you do not believe me, ask around.) Attending a mathematics lecture is like walking through a thunderstorm at night. Most of the time you are lost, wet and miserable but at rare intervals there is a flash of lightning and the whole countryside is lit up.


Nothing much there really if you look at the archive. (Think they took it down?)

Jack Ma? The others look just like their namesake lol.

https://youtu.be/HR-_U0Pzl1Y

Wrt the rest: I have a clue, but maybe I should think a bit in case something fun pops up.


Jack (and Leopold) seem centrist to me

Are they real people?




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