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Fair? Do you really think so? If so you terrify me.

I've done plenty of really f*cking stupid things in my time. I'm very thankful most of them were offline or pre-internet.



You're terrified by the idea that someone should be fired for gross unprofessionalism?

To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever.

Did you experience consequences of the stupid actions you've taken?


Gross unprofessionalism? She wasn't on the job. It wasn't an official account.


You'd think a PR person would know PR doesn't take breaks or consider unofficial stuff to be out of bounds.


I'd like to live to a world where your actions outside of the workplace in a physical or online sense don't affect how you're perceived but it's just not true.


I'm dating myself, but I grew up thinking pretty much whatever you did outside of work--was no one's business.

The first time I knew society changed was when Charlie Sheen was fired for his lifestyle. Actually, the first time was the Clinton/Monica fiasco.

The only benefit I see from this hyper morality is true hypocrites/authority figures are exposed. I partied in the eighties, like everyone else; The only time I was offered hard drugs was by three off duty cops at different engagements. I don't think I(a stranger) would get that offer today?

I don't like it when one of you guys are fired over something said, but I'm all for exposing hypocritical Politicians and Law Enforcement types. Yes, I have been harassed by law enforcement, and if it happens again, and all this tech works, I will post the offence online. Legally--I know they can randomly stop people, I can randomly post. I now have two cameras front and rear of my vechicle. I am waiting for the next time I get pulled over for no reason. I also try to keep that Iphone camera handy if I suspect abuse of authority.

I liked the old system because I was white and middle class, but I can't imagine what a lot of women and minorites had to put up with?

(Actually the I more think about it, maybe the reason we are so sensitive over online comments is because, as white males, we didn't experience the injustice the rest had to endure? I know my generation wasen't sexist, or racist, but my father's generation--is a whole other story.)


Not true because of people like you who force the link, who call,email and tweet employers about the behaviour of their off duty staff.


because of people like you

^Thats quite an assumption to make, no?

For the record, I've never done any of the above.


I think you understand what I mean but are perhaps being dense for the sake of argument. There are people who hold simile views to yourself and these people take it up on themselves to bring people's employers into arguments that they have no part of or perhaps would be otherwise unaware of. That's not to say the employer cannot have a response to comments and posts of this nature but they are not allowed to deal with it in a professional manner because the mob is baying at their door.


Nope, not being intentionally dense - I'm already unintentionally dense without adding to it! - but your comment felt like you were saying that I did those things, when in fact I never have.


That was not my intention, Apologies if it came across like that.


I've posted something online that almost got me fired. No racists remarks, no hate, it was just some techincal info I shouldn't have shared.

The power that a few sentences can have is sometimes terrifying.


Among the reasons that I "am" "Dr. Edward Morbius" and "work" is "Krell Power Systems, Unlimited".


> To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever.

That wasn't clear. You said the "outcome was fair" - the outcome was that her life was ruined.


I also said: No one deserves to be bullied or harassed but consequences need to exist to actions.

I meant the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair. I don't believe how her life has been "ruined" as I've explained elsewhere.


Clearly the person who fired her only did so because of public outcry, i.e. the bullying. That was in their best interest. It wasn't fair. It wasn't a consequence equal to her action. It may have been equal to the reaction to her tweet, but that reaction was unjust.

The consequences of the bullying, given her being fired, is much worse than if she was not fired. Her ability to compete in the workplace has been severely diminished because of this. Her PTSD that she will probably suffer for a long time has been greatly exacerbated by her firing.

Given the worst intention of her tweet (ignorance), getting fired was still not the right reaction to her "crime."

Do people need to be held accountable to their actions? I agree that they should. Outside of criminal law (since this wasn't criminal), the mob is not the right group to decide what the correct consequence of her actions should be. History shows that this leads to barbarism, which this was a case of.

She didn't get what was coming to her, she got much worse.


if you think the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair, you have a very bleak and dystopian view of fairness. she was posting something to her own private twitter account in her own time; it had nothing to do with the job.




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